Maddening Wrestling Takes

MWT (00:01.068)
Hey Mad House, welcome back to another episode of Maddening Wrestling Takes. I'm Mike. I'm Ace. We're going to jump into some wrestling, give you the week recap, then jump into a couple topics, hit up that bracket. And then of course, the Maddening Takes. Our Maddening Takes. Which may or may not be quite as maddening, depending on your viewpoint. At this point, if you stuck around with us, I figure you're probably a little mad too, so maybe our stuff doesn't sound quite as crazy.

So let's jump in. We're gonna start with Raw from last week. You want to that? Yeah. I was gonna start reading but go ahead. So Seth kicked off the show celebrating his, you know, the highest of the century, the ruse of the ruse. right. Ruse of the century that Ace called early. Yes. Check it. All you other influencers, WWE, call it one night after who say

We called it but you have no video or audio proof on it, but I digress a song with the show Then Seth basically says I've beaten everyone there is to beat You know because punk yeah, he's being punk he's beaten Roman. Yep. He's beaten Cody. No, he hasn't beaten. He beat Cody. No, he's not I Cody's in the feet Anyways, anyways, everybody on which right which would be a good

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time to have like their third matchup and whatnot at Crown Jewel. Cause they have the champions. stupid Crown Jewel title thing. Yeah I mean they've had only good matches. I know but I just hate the idea of it. It's basically Survivor Series. I understand that but it should be Survivor Series not we're gonna give you another ridiculous belt that you can hold for a night and then we'll put on display in a foreign country. Okay well at least they don't carry it. This is true it's not a real official title so it's not one of 75 titles that people can carry around.

I'm talking to you Owen Hart Cup Championship. What was the other one? What's the other one? That's a continental, continental, the continental classic. And then you defend it for a year and then could lose it in the continental classic again. Dumbass ideas. You might not even be booked in the tournament this year. Right. Hey, good job champ. You don't even get a spot moving on. Seth basically said, you know, I beat in every one there is to beat.

Then LA Knight's music hit, because if you remember, during the quote unquote injury, LA Knight actually pinned Seth. Right. So LA Knight comes out and goes, you're to beat me? He said, I wanted to hurt you, but you got hurt before I had a chance to hurt you. Yes. Then Adam Pearce comes out and says, or LA Knight says, how about let's have a tonight for that title. And Seth goes, you want a match right here? No.

Yeah, he gives a big build up like he's going on and like you aren't gonna call me out. I'm not afraid. Nah, I'm good. Right. Then Adam Pierce comes out. goes, now, normally, I would be on Seth's side with this, you know, not making matchups for the title on. letting the talent make the matchups. But Seth, haven't been, you haven't been predictable lately. Your wife hasn't been.

What he said was I normally wouldn't let the talent make a title match on a Monday night and wherever they were Canada somewhere or something. I don't think so. I don't know wherever the hell they were. But we both look back to see if it's right. But normally a champion wouldn't lie about medical reports a champion would normally a champion wouldn't have their medical staff lie to WWE champion.

MWT (03:50.444)
So I guess what I'm saying is this isn't a normal night send out the ref. That's an official match main event tonight And yeah, and that's official I love Adam do you think that's one of them or catchphrases? I think it's hilarious. All right, two days Yes, two days after their defense. I needed to remember if it was on summer slam Saturday or so, okay

Two days after they captured the women's tag team championships, Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair faced the judgment day yet again. In a rematch. In a rematch and beat them. Again. I was at a friend's house for this raw. And I was telling them, said, you know, cause she asked me, she goes, why would the, why would the challenges win two nights after they won?

Because they already had their moment. Right. Like if you're not thinking someone's going to have a good run with the title, then they've done that multiple times. Right. They have. But like we pointed out last week, Triple H went from like within a month and a half's time from Charlotte being one of the most hated people on his roster to getting cheered for being out there. He wasn't taking titles off anybody. Right. I, you know, kind of was holding out hope Roxy got second title, but no, no, she'll get there.

yeah. So judgment day lost. I was not watching this match. was getting food or something. I was being a great guest. Rusev versus Seamus. I was very upset. missed this throwing that one out there. And then a double count out. wasn't it's, it's just, they, continued fighting throughout the rest of the night. they? Yeah. Like just backstage. Yeah. Like all night. And he bumped into Sammy and ended up making a match for tonight. Yeah.

Penta beat Grayson Waller then put on Xavier Woods read 20 foot hat. 20 foot long hat circumference. You know, the the actions and the way they're presenting themselves as the morning new day is kind of getting old to me. But the outfits, I know, out woods especially.

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It's like taking it to the next level. I was enjoying the shit out was sitting next to Caitlyn, she goes, what is that hat? Then he walks, then he walks down the bottom of the screen. like, you can't even see the Rollo go on the apron. When I saw somebody bitching because Penta put it on and it was making fun of all things that were that were Hispanic. I was like, wow, it was something online. Somebody took a picture when Penta put the hat on because it looks kind of a little bit like a giant sombrero.

So was making fun of all things Hispanic. It's like, come on, no, that shit was hilarious. The only thing I wish that would have happened with that is he would have tried the suicide dive while wearing the hat. No, that would not have ended well. I would have looked funny as shit, though. Just chuck the hat at Woods. Just I wanted to see him like pull that bitch down, bounce off the ropes and go for the suicide. Dominic Mysterio beat Dragon Lee with the help of El Grande Americano, El Grande Americano and

El Grande Americano? Which is great because I was jumping up and down that like ecstatic there was a third one. I was rolling my eyes pretty heavy. I know. I text this guy. I go, there are three. He goes, great. Great. Yeah. Awesome. Now, if they end up making El Grande Americano Battle Royale. El Grande Americano Battle Royale. El Grande Americano. Like, if they end up taking every underutilized talent they have.

and throwing a mask on them and calling them El Grande Americano, even though they're from England or Germany or wherever the hell Ludwig's from. is the Germany. OK, yeah. Gunter's Austria. Yeah. And Giovanni was Italy. Yes. OK, so yeah, thank you. Especially they keep putting non-American guys under the mask. them El Grande Americano. This could end up funny. Or if they just make an El Grande Americano.

Although I heard somebody say war game. No, stop that. That's not going to happen. need it. I heard somebody refer to Ludwig Kaiser is El Grande Vente. I saw El Vente Americano. El Vente Americano. Because he's a lot taller than the other three. I was like, that's that's clever. That's awesome. So we've discovered that.

MWT (08:35.15)
Pete Dunne was under the second mask and then this new El Grande Americano people are saying it might be Tyler Bate. Yeah, I think it was somebody and I didn't see in the picture, but somebody said that they felt that it was pretty clearly Tyler Bate under that third one. Well, he shaved his beard, did he not? He didn't have a beard. He did. Shaved his beard. He looked back like old Tyler Bate. Yeah, so. Like young Tyler. Yes. When we say old, we mean previous. is weird. Old means young in this situation. Okay.

So finally, main event time. LA Knight versus Seth Rollins. Nothing special. Seth Rollins actually tears or brings up the padding on the outside of the ring. LA Knight, she's getting in position to hit the curbs. LA Knight is getting in position to take the curbs, not hit it. Then this guy just attacks Seth and it's CMP.

It's yeah, was so unpredictable that punk would attack Seth. Well, because their dad asked me he goes So who you got winning because LA Knights this would be his first championship ever. I punks interfering Yeah, said I said this is going to end in a double DQ or double count You understand that you watch in wrestling with other people they feel like you feel when you watch wrestling with me, right? He's like, well, thanks for telling me what's gonna happen before because ash ash was like well

Tell me why LA Knight wouldn't win. It's a random Monday. It is the two days after his first, after his campionship win, he's not losing in his first defense. And three, CM Punk's getting involved. They've already built up the storyline for him and Punk. Then why isn't he going to lose? This is called booking 101. You guys need to watch the company more, man.

Then the bronze attacks CM Punk and LA Knight. Was it on this episode that they said it they said the thing? Yeah, could you text me they said the thing? This is the vision the vision this is the vision and I've now seen other people online referring to the faction as the vision So again right here boom here first We said it with the help of Brandon fine-tuning or if you'll recall was originally the vision of the visionary

MWT (10:56.184)
Brandon said maybe too long. How about we just go with the vision? Thank you, Paul, for listening to my podcast. Love you, Paulie. We know that shit ain't happening. We're not delusional, but it's fun to think the vision, I believe, is now going to be the official name of this faction going forward. do, too, which is an outstanding name. If I do say so myself. Then LeBron came out LeBron's.

If you say LeBron people get confused. you put Ness on the end of it they understand. LeBron's came out to attack LA Knight and who's the other guy?

you. No problem. That's how much I care. And you know, they... What's his face? The big dude. Ronson? Thank you. No problem. cannot. I'm too tired. This is rough for boy. Just woke up from a nap not too long ago. The rough life of a 15 year old. I woke up from a nap and I have to go do my podcast. I know, it's tragic. Yeah, he hit a couple tsunamis on both LA Night and CM Punk, right? Yeah. They pose credits roll, you know, because...

Their dad is asking me he goes who's coming out to help him and you know Mariah says John Cena and Her dad, you know understanding the story goes no him and Lesnar are in their own thing. I'm like Thank you. I said I said Roman maybe Credits roll and you know nothing shows Paul Roman nope Paul Seth Bronson and Braun

He's pose up on the ramp and that Romans music hits. I pop like a little girl. Now, in fairness, I'm sitting here watching wrestling. Right. We were not in same spot together. I'm sitting here at the house watching wrestling saying to my wife, who's still up because she had to go get ice. Right. Saying not a wrestling fan in the slightest. Not a bit saying this isn't over. She says the credits are on like this isn't over. Hang on. Post credit scene. Yeah.

MWT (13:06.304)
It's like a Marvel movie, give me a second. Roman's music hits and I said, and at this moment your son is making a fool of himself in front of his friends because he's standing up, finger in the air, ready to go. That is exactly what happened. Exactly what happened. So Roman came down and cleared house, but he got laid out. He got tsunami three times. That's right. I believe. his shoes got stolen again. I'm telling you, have you seen the people online?

taking pictures of themselves at shoe stores with shoes hanging around their neck. No, yes. With finger in the air, shoes hanging. I don't know. don't know if it was Paulie, if it was Bronson that posted a picture that somebody sent and said, this is the way you honor your tribal thief. It's amazing. With the hue of all of Great. If I'd have thought about it, we'd have done it when we're at the mall today. We should have. We should have stopped in the foot locker and threw a pair on. Random pair.

Rumor is Roman might miss a significant amount of time because he's going to go shoot Street Fighter in case anybody missed that he's Been cast as a kuma. Yes. However, I heard he's going to show up tonight, right? Well, the only reason I say that is because I heard that that like him getting tsunami'd However many times was the way to write him off, right? But I also heard is showing up tonight. the thing I have and I saw well, I saw a santee

talking about this. in Cody's first title run, we had the rock looming over him. Right. So when he's fighting AJ, when he's fighting KO, when he's fighting what you know, he's not losing because the rock was which never came to fruition, but the rock was looming over him. So you knew these things weren't going to happen. Now with this title run, there is nothing like that. So legitimately, anybody he goes up against could lose it.

This isn't going to be Cody's last title run by any chance so And if he needs to go because rumors, I don't know if I've seen a confirmation on this I know he was going I think I think I I know he was going for the part of guile in the Street Fighter movie Which is amazing. I knew he was up for it. But if he got that too Then that would be something that now anybody who challenges him even drew in this first title defense

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is a possibility of taking the title off him so he can be out for a little while. Go film the movie, come back and then be a three time WWE champion. To confirm he's cast as guy. So whenever they write Roman off, they're probably going to have to write Cody off. Because I can't. I don't know they've they've cast. They've cast quite a few people in this movie. They've cast way too many. Well, it's not like the old Street Fighter movie with Jean Claude Van Damme where it was basically

It was Giles. It was Giles movie and then a handful of other people from the from the video game were in it. Right. No, this this have you seen this cast? Oh, yeah. It's pretty much every year. Like if you look at the Ultimate Street Fighter game, it's pretty much every character has been cast. the names in the movie. Yeah. It's ridiculous. They've got some getting getting a little off topic here. But yeah, well, kind of because a lot a few of the names in there are wrestlers and big name wrestlers. Did they end up reaching out to Strowman to play?

Please and give yeah, I don't know. I haven't read anything about that because I know he really wanted to be absolutely perfect in the fight scenes That's the thing when you start casting these wrestlers and as action Yeah, people especially they know how to act they know what a cell they know how to and you don't need stunt doubles, right? So you don't have to worry about pausing to get a camera angle just right because you can shoot these guys from any angle, right? It'll be able to take it because at one point in time you've got to think in this movie Akuma is gonna fight guy. No 100 % so so they can just

They can just go have this fight. I think going forward, I know WWE is really kind of pushing it. I think you'll see more of their higher level guys ending up in movies, maybe not stars of a bunch of movies, but ending up as henchmen in movies or something where they can do fight scenes. Roman is currently in a prime video series. Yeah, I've heard it's not good. well, I want to watch it. I've only heard like one or two reviews of it, but I've heard it's not good.

They're gonna there's gonna be a line in the Street Fighter movie saying Guile has to finish his story. Right. Guiles, I have to do this. have to finish my cry too. My dad was a Marine and he tried to stop this fighting tournament too and he never could do it. They wouldn't let him be the fighting champion. have to finish the Guile story.

MWT (17:51.662)
His dog is going to run out. It's just going to be crazy. His dog is going to have that same spike haircut. The pharaoh is going to have the same spike haircut. Guy's the one with like the afro with a flat top. The giant flat. It's not an afro. It's just a giant flat top. It's like a three foot flat top. Yeah, it's crazy. It like goes out a foot and a half in front of them. Yeah. OK. He's one of the original Street Fighter 2, which is where this game series really took off. He's one of the original characters. Kenny Omega is Sagura.

in a Street Fighter 6 DLC. No. Sakura. He's a bald guy with an eye patch. Sagat. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

He's a little small for Sagat, but whatever. Yeah. He wouldn't have surprised me if they'd have cast him in the movie either. He's just just on his his video game presence. Talk way too much about this movie. Let's get on that next to you, shall we? That's all right. Sorry for that little slide. Everybody likes a little break is cool.

Sorry, I had a burp coming up and I didn't want a burp in the mic. Blake Monroe faced... Did I this? I didn't watch this. I know, because you were at Trivia. I watched... No, what did you do? You did something Tuesday night. No, because I watched... Miles Borne and Lexus King. watched Nia Jax and Thea Hale. I watched Stax versus... Maybe the TV was messed up if you didn't get the beginning.

Maybe it happens. mean streaming streaming buffers and it it locks sometimes right so any rate Blake Monroe versus Kehlani Jordan Kehlani Jordan wins via countout after Jordan Grace returns and Cases Blake Monroe often Monroe, you know runs away in a car Drives away in a car. It's hard to run a car

MWT (19:48.633)
Don't look at me like that. Don't it. Don't look at me like that. Maybe a party bus. The NXT Tag Team Championships are on the line. Hank and Tank. Hong Kong. Thank you. No problem. Versus KCU. KCU ends up losing. And Hank and Tank retain. I really wish Hank and Tank would refine their finisher a little bit. I'm not sure I like the headbutt. And with the power slam, I think I'd like to see something else better. I don't know what.

hidden blade like yeah like a hidden blade or a clothesline or something forearm to the back of the head after the match dark state attacks both Hank and Tank and JCU

Wait... No. This says Attack of the Champs.

Okay, this isn't right because DarkState attacks Moose, Trick Williams, Oba Femi, and... Javon Evans. Javon Evans setting up a match get taken out. Yes, DarkState gets taken out. Yeah, so I saw a clip of that. Yes. So I am a little sad about this because now DarkState has lost to the system. I know. And now... to these guys. They're gonna lose to these guys. So they built DarkState up really nice initially and now they're just like... They're like... They presented them... I mean, you have to...

Let them get beat up at some point. some point, but I think it's a little early. They built them as the shield coming in and now they're treating them like, what the hell is that horrible faction with slapjack and retribution. Yeah, there go. There you go. They brought them in like the shield treating them like retribution. Right. Yeah, so that set up a eight man tag match for tomorrow and they have Moose and Trick have something going on.

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Like the week prior, might be a contract signing. Okay. So they, cause they're, they're fighting because that's Jesus Christ. That's going to be a bad match. I know. anyways, miles born versus Lexus King miles born wins by pinfall.

Thought you watched the match of that maybe I did it was was that pretty much. Okay? No into Lexus man. I think they should I know Lexus well I mean they want to build up miles born I get it, but don't make it I mean give it a little bit to the match though because I like Lexus He's got a good character. I he could be it wasn't Okay, man, okay exactly. Naya Jax versus Thea Hale Naya won and it wasn't the squash man. Really? Yes. I

Saw yeah, I saw thea haile coming out. I'm like, who she's gonna who is she gonna face nice music hits I'm like, oh, I can go make a bag of popcorn I come out with a bag of popcorn and thea has the choke hold on Naya or their sleeper. Oh, and I it does end up winning but Stacks versus inamora stacks wins by I think it's a roll-up or no, he wins. This says via pinfall. It's not

He I don't think it might have been after the match Josh Briggs hits it Amora with a big boot. on purpose. so we got that fight coming. Yep And then that was kind of a foregone conclusion. That was very poorly hidden that that was gonna happen then in our main event Soul Ruka versus Tatum Paxley for the NIC women's North American Championship There was a point in this match. I thought Tatum was gonna win

They gave, you know how Tatum carries those dolls around? Yeah. What's her name? The girl, not Tatum in the calling. Izzy Dame? Yes, gave Tatum the doll and I don't know, I think she was going to hit Sol with it. Okay. So what's her face? Izzy is distracting the ref and Sol just comes up out of nowhere, hits a Sol snack and wins.

MWT (23:52.281)
Which sucks because Tatum was definitely close enough to grab, her foot on the rope. is going to be huge when she goes up. one last thing that this doesn't mention. know, Charles, Charlie Dempsey and Wren Sinclair are backstage. You know, Charlie's upset because there's no more Wren Sinclair.

He didn't even want run in the great, you know, the only person left the one he didn't want. Right. So Ren basically goes, you know, what always cheers me up? Say his name and he appears. I believe in your hand. And Charlie says, knock it off. Yeah, he's not going to up. And then he comes out, comes out of the fridge. I did see that clip comes out of the fridge. So that set up a match for next week or tomorrow. Right. Charlie Dempsey versus.

Joe Henry. They've also set up a match with this is with trick Williams and Javon Evans for next week for this week. Winners faces Obifemi heatwave. That's what it was. So the dark states match isn't happening this week. Yes, it is. So it's happening next week. Next week. Yes. Yes. So we get it says this is saying next week because today is this week. You know what I'm saying? Like Tuesday this like tomorrow would be OK. This week.

That is what they said. do now that I'm reading it, I remembered I'm saying that. And then the butler of fatal influence, what's her name? Jasmine Nix. Fallon Henley said, yeah, you know, we're looking for a tag match. Jasmine, give us opponents. And Kehlani Jordan and Lola Vice are arguing with fatal influence. And Jasmine's like, sure.

So that's a match for next week. Yeah, so the future match is matchup announced Dempsey and Hendry. Yeah. Fatal Influence versus Jordan and Vice. Lash Legend versus Nia Jax. Yes, that is next week because after the match, Lash Legend attacked Nia and they basically did the whole Rusev and Sheamus thing. Okay, they just fought the whole night. Yeah. Okay. And at one point, I think someone ran into Ava and she's like, that's enough. You will settle this next week.

MWT (26:19.686)
That'll be the end. Speak of Ava. Did you see that she has been in ring with Charlotte? I did her Uriah Connors and Lexus I believe hmm. Yeah, Charlotte Flair was training with them because she said Same time next week or same time tomorrow or something like that. So it looks like Ava might be training to Get a match coming on here. Thank goodness. I would like to I'm pretty anxious for

Lash legend and Nia Jax, honestly. don't know that it's going to be good, but I hope it puts Lash over. If Nia sticks around at this point, there's not a whole lot Nia can do. At some point, bring her back up to the main roster, her that big physical unstoppable heel. That's fine. But right now it's played out on the main roster. So bring her down here as this big unstoppable heel that Lash stops and put Lash over.

to kind of catapult her up into the next catapult. say, but put Lash on the main roster or put the world title on her. The world, I mean NXT. Right, and I'm thinking this might happen like that. I hope does. That's what I'm hoping this Nia Jax feud with her does. All right, that's it for NXT. Do you wanna get SmackDown? I'll take yours, you wanna get AEW? I'll take off and flee. Let's see, which do I watch? John's? All right, so opening segment.

Sina full face. Yes. Comes back. Black and white screen. Yep. And as soon as the beat drops and then it's all colorful and he runs out. Talks about Stu running down. Let's get to work. I love Stu. They still they still call him the last real champion. That's something. Yeah, that's that's going to be his like the final boss. Yeah. Last real champion. That's going to be their last nicknames. Good. the final. Right.

Yeah, because it's the end and that might be his last match. was gonna say and that might be hinting that Cena's last match. The last real champion versus the final boss. That'd be a banger. I'm just, well, maybe. Thrice in a lifetime. Yeah, the thrice in a lifetime banger. And that might be something to watch down the line. You know what? Screw it. I'm gonna go ahead right here. Right here. Right now. Is it time? August 11th. Do I mark my calendar? August 11th. I'm saying that's Cena's last match. Last real champion.

MWT (28:39.886)
Versus the final boss. I'm saying calling it now. Okay Seen this last match. Wait, he doesn't have the title anymore. No, you could get it back. He could be the 18 Which I heard some people saying that before he even lost his title, right? Well, this was because he was a heel, you know He said he was gonna be 17 to shake the hand of the man who won 18. So he's just giving himself more props, right? I think

Cena's last match, I've pivoted, Cena's last match will be for the IC title. I don't know who he's going to be against. He's going to retire with the IC title. No. he's going lose his last match. Yeah, everyone loses their last They lose their last match because it's typically a retirement match and that's the stipulation. This is not a stipulation. It's his final match no matter what. He, what I think is going to happen, he's going to win the IC title before whatever and he's going to do.

one last open challenge and then someone like big return like ilia like tyler bait like you know i know you're gonna roll your eyes at this but i told you what that if he does that if he beats dom because that's honestly if he's gonna get the title he should wrestle dom yeah that'd be great and he fantastic he can beat dom and still put dom over right as far as wrestling ability goes so you can have a great match still put dom over still have dom lose that's fine

But if he's going to lose this in an open challenge because of his longevity, what he's done, who he's wrestled, Seamus is the guy that needs to beat him to get that. one title he has because they've teased that how many times he's gone for the IC title, the one he hasn't had, the one he hasn't had, the one he hasn't had. So now they could build this as either Cena takes the title with him or Rusev gets the one title he never had. Either way. No, shut up. know what I meant? Seamus.

gets the one title he never had. So either way, it's a dramatic outcome for the match. Right. And if Cena wins the IC title, he will officially be a Grand Slam champion. Right. And never done yet, which is as same as saying to me. So you could you could on Cena's way out, you can make two new Grand Slam champions. Right. That that would be good. But I'm going to stick by my prediction, my prediction, prediction, my prediction. I'm going to stick by my prediction and my prediction.

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is what I said. Nope. I got finishes out this way now. Damn it. Now you make me talk longer. I you say I say the final match is the last real champion. The never seen 17 versus the final boss. All right. Now I can go back to regular voices. You're right. I leave. No, man. We still got to do. Come on. That was good.

You John Cena came out you even chuckled at the never seen 17 and never seen 17 Anyway We got like 30 seconds in the smackdown before the shit which went off the rails. All right, let's try this again Cena comes out all good guy all face. Yay. Here I am I'm a good guy and

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You know, the way I want to and everybody loves me and you know, I am afraid though. I'm afraid you guys will forget me and I'm afraid of Brock Lester. But and that's the last time we hear about Brock Lester for the night.

MWT (32:09.912)
We don't hear about Brock the rest of the night. well, you said that and I thought like it wasn't. No, it was. And that's the way he comes out, makes this big speech. You know, they had Brock return at SummerSlam as this big controversy about bringing Brock back before his charges were cleared. He's still kind of a little bit caught up in that Vince McMahon human trafficking thing, which is kind of pretty heavy to bring someone back. But they bring him back. He have five, Cena. They make a big deal. Cena comes out and says, I'm scared. There's no way.

in the shape of a man I would have ever asked to fight Brock Lesnar, but I'm also not going to run from it. I'm afraid Brock Lesnar just got himself a John Cena problem. And then we don't talk about Brock for the rest of the show. Right. And not only do we not talk about Brock for the rest of the show, but then outcomes. I'm afraid everyone else in that locker room has a John Cena problem. So if you want some, come get some.

And out comes the maverick. Paul. Paul. Now, Ace is like, these two have history. They can pay this off a little bit. So they have their little back and forth and he challenges seemed to a match at Clash in Paris. Actually, he builds it up as the great French speaking city. The. because this is when they were. Yeah, this is when they were. Right, right, right. Montreal.

Quebec, Canada. Says he wants it in a great French speaking city, you know, with historic landmarks. So let's do it in Paris. Right. So they're talking and then McIntyre comes out and jumps Sina. Yeah, because Logan Paul just says something. goes, thanks, Sina or something like that. And then Sina turns around and McIntyre, he doesn't claim or I think he just clobbers him.

So then Cody comes out to make the save. So Cena says, OK, Clash in Paris, Logan Paul, John Cena, I accept, but you guys look like you want to fight tonight. So I got a tag team partner standing right here. We're going to fight. So they built up bringing Lesnar back. They talk about Cena being scared to fight Lesnar and hey, why don't you fight Logan Paul? Because that's somehow comparable. What the shit are you talking about?

MWT (34:38.946)
Don't get me wrong. said, no, no, no. What are you talking about? Low FC. Low FC? What the shit? So I said on many an occasion that Logan Paul is a great entering competitor, but I can't with any kind of a straight face put him on a little of a Brock Lesnar. Logan Paul has beaten the likes of Floyd Mayweather. OK, he's beaten the likes of other boxing legends. Supposedly.

He's faced Roman Reigns. OK, he's beaten Rey Mysterio. OK. He's one of the greatest of all times. Anyway, they're going to have that match in Paris. Yes. So again, you know, says, yeah, that's a match. Because the gap is here. That's what he did. Dude, you're killing my headphones. my bad. Sorry. Sorry.

Well, I'm going to skip this little next piece right here. We'll get back. we'll get back to that. All right. So Motor City Machine Guns versus Tala Tonga and JC Matteo. And then that's all this. Sorry, sorry. MFD is when? Right. Then the solo says, you know, I'm in my gear. No one's been able to beat me. Bring it. Bring someone up. And Aldous comes out and says, hey, that's great, because I just happen to have somebody here, somebody that you might be a little familiar with.

And then that God awful Scott music hits. Whoa. And out comes Sammy Zane to the thunderous roar that is reserved for him, Kevin Owens and Bret Hart while they're in Canada. Kevin Owens and he beats solo non title match. He wins. Which he also now has a match against Rusev tonight. So my God, bro, if he wins that he's going to they're putting this on and we're going to talk a little bit about something else that

This role Sammy's been on is going to be one of our topics. Part of this role is going to be one of our topics later. Charlotte Flair brings out Lexi because it's Lexi's birthday. It is Lexi's birthday. Well, in like two days. She says, Lexi, I got a present for you. So she brings her out. She has this giant cake that says, like, congratulations, Charlotte. Tiny little letter says Alexa. And then it says P.S. Happy birthday. It's great. She gives her. My name's not on the cake yet. It's right there. Just never mind.

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We'll go so she gives her a new Lily with We're not friends shirt on. Yep, and then she gives her she pulls out the doll that years ago When Lexi first said Charlotte had yeah Charlotte had no friends 2021 they said that so years ago Yeah, when she said Charlotte had no friends. She presented her this hideous doll that was kind of like a Lily knockoff, but in a flare motif Charlie Charlie Charlie

So she brought Flair brought out a Charlie doll with we're not friends t-shirts and then my favorite I got this part is it's my favorite segment of the week. Nick Aldis go or Chelsea Green comes out saying hey, you know We're in canada. They should be worshiping me. They should be praising me celebrating my return And then charlotte goes hey, you know, like see I have one last birthday present. I'm gonna kick Chelsea's ass and Chelsea's like

No, I didn't sign up for this Nick Aldis walks out. He goes, you know what? That's a great idea and like see I also happen to have a birthday present for you. I Got a new ref. He has a bow tie on he's smiling and waving. No, it wasn't a bow tie It was like a present bow over on his like over off to the side of his chest smiling and waving like hello

Sorry, that's my favorite segment. don't know how Alex's husband felt when they called us presented her with a new man as her president I know he's a rock star. Maybe he's into that rock star. Yeah, I can't remember what band he's anything popular I think so. Oh like the name was not to me, but I believe it's a known band I'll have to look it up cuz honestly I didn't care that much right because once I heard Lexi was off the market cuz you know the the chance that I had I

Instantly hated the guy and didn't want to pay any attention anymore. Um Charlotte beats Chelsea Green after hitting an unprettier Into the cake into the cake into the cake great because we knew the cake was gonna come into play. Yes They moved that to ringside. It's like right. told ace was like somebody's going into that cake. Oh my god Chelsea. I'll be fire got the cake Piper Nivens picked her up by the ankles and slid her into the ring So the cake was in the middle of the ring. So so I was standing at the apron

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puts the cake on the apron and holds it. Piper bends down, grabs her ankles, lifts her so she's even with the ring and slides her in like she's a giant spatula. And I turn to you, I go, was that necessary? It made for good comedic effect. So we're going. Yes, we're going back to that. Oh, I'm getting this. I got you. got you. No, no, no. You got your favorite part. I get mine. Right. This was definitely second. OK, definitely second.

So we're getting ready for our main event. John Cena is walking the ring with purpose. He's ready to go. He's and then he stops for a second. Looks at the side. Stands there for a second just looking. Killings appears. Ron Killings comes in and he says. do. They just they did a little stare down. yeah. Like the hand like they're they're a mirror. Yes. This hand up. Cena raises one hand up. Yeah. Yes. It's great. And Truth says you back?

Soon as the Jays said, well, you back on back. So he says, yeah, there's a little bit of credit. You didn't go a little crazy there for a while. You remember five months. You remember for like five months you're going crazy and you're saying you're going to ruin wrestling for everybody. What was that all about? You said that kid in Brussels. You remember that kid in Brussels cry. What was that all about? It was horrible. I'm glad you're back, truth. He walks away and truth just staring like like everybody used to do it truth when he would just say off the wall shit. Right. I'm so like, OK, and.

As much as we wanted truth back, they were doing nothing with Ron Killings. No, well, I saw somebody bitch about that too. I didn't want Ron Killings. I our truth. Well, that was the thing. And even with our truth, they really didn't do a whole lot with him. There would be weeks that you didn't see our truth. And then you just pop up, do something funny, have a short three, four match feud and then go away for a while. Yeah, I'm OK with that. And that's what they need to do with him. And I saw somebody bitching. We all wanted him back. They brought him back and they haven't done anything. They've done exactly what they were doing before.

Well, right, but that was our truth, not Ron Kelly. Right. But Ron Killian's experiment went over about as well as the John Cena one did. Right. So. So and we are. What happened with that is that Cena wanted to work with the truth. And this is the thing, everybody talks about Cena burying people. The reason our truth was in a main event scene is because Cena personally asked for it. Right. And because he's I'm positive, like.

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Without a doubt in my mind, the years that he was gone, when like 2018 through 2022, however long the 24-7 championship was a thing, our truth, whole like little running gag was John Cena was a childhood hero, even though he was like two years older. Yeah, say anything you want about Cena. He put together a list of people that he wanted to work with. And Ron Kellens was one of them. Yes. Which is amazing because

Let's be honest at the level scene is that he does not have to work with somebody at the level of our truth. And he did. It's great. I'm AJ is on his list because I would like to see that one run back one more time. we only have so many what we down to 10 matches 10 10 days now. I don't think so. Either 11 or 10. I think the last one was we were down to 11 on Friday. dates.

I think Cena said we were down to 11 on Friday 11 yep, yeah, so we've got 11 more and one of them's in Paris so we got 10 more That we don't know who he's fighting yet. One of them is gonna be Brock. So we got nine more that we don't know who he's fighting yet Survivor series and in Boston So we know we've got those I can't believe he's ending on Saturday night's main right

and that's make a PLE for seeing as her time I wouldn't mind in the match They could say that Cena has one more date left, but still have him wrestle ten matches So we have seen a PLE yeah, so the main event Cena and Cody versus Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre because of it. I mean that's a new tag team I don't mind it because it lets Drew be Evil and goofy at the same time

He can, he can say funny dumb shit because that's what Logan does. Smelly roll. Yeah, but he can still be ruthless. So I'm kind of digging it. So the match ends in disqualification when Logan Paul low blowed Cena. Yeah. Cena and Logan Paul fight to the back. Yep. McIntyre and Cody fight at the ring side. McIntyre puts Cody's head up against the

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bottom of the announce table looks at that championship, sets it down and hits a basement claymore. Is that what they're calling it? That's what I'm calling it because it was a claymore, but he was on the ground. So well, if you drop kick somebody when they're on the ground, it's called a basement dropkick. I suppose. So I'm going to go ahead and say, it's a basement claymore. OK, that breaks the announced tables front. Oh, yeah. As Cody's head goes through it. Obviously, to lose this match. Obviously, we know that that was

set up everybody knew it was gonna happen it was you know probably week and board it was it was rigged but look brutal as shit yeah well played no jacob fatu in this one in this show i don't believe so so they're gonna be building on something with jacob i'm hoping like i said last week the only way jacob loses that match is that he comes back with zilla or i saw somewhere that jacob wasn't supposed to break the handcuffs

But he accidentally did because well, mean, solo would have won the same way no matter what. Just crawling out of the cage. Jacob, mean, you know, Jacob always looks kind of he I don't know how Jacob does it. He either looks frightened or determined. Every time, and I genuinely couldn't tell looking back if he was frightened or determined because he, you know, might have accidentally snapped it.

that someone said like that whole thing just looked like not planned. the only thing the only reason I would go with that is because they didn't have the camera on him when he broke it. They had it. Well, there was a camera, but it wasn't the live shot. They had to go back and show us and replay when he broke the handcuffs. I don't think so. Yes, 100 percent. they? Yep. OK, because they call even said, I understand we have a shot of Jacob breaking the handcuffs. OK, so they had to go back and show us. So, that might not have been meant to happen at that point.

But I think the way they did it with... Yeah, the post-match beatdown. Yeah. Well, I think the way they did it with Tala kicking the door into it and then Solo falling out, I think that was perfect. Well, right, yeah. I think it... Because it lended to the fact that the MFT was down there. Yeah. I So that's our SmackDown review and a sidetracker seven. Right. So...

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On to AEW. Sorry, guys, we're not following our standard formula of just telling you what happened. We're just going off the rails all over the damn place. So Ace is now going to talk about where the best. And Sasha Banks, Russell. sorry. Mercedes, my name. I really thought you were going to say and John Moxley versus Speedball Mike Bailey. Yeah. Yeah. Moxley won. What? Right. Crazy.

Yeah via interference from Wheeler, Yuta, Marina Shaffir You know, Deathrider stuff Because he needs Wheeler, Yuta, Marina Shaffir's help to beat Speedball Mike Bailey, right? I'm sorry. Is this finisher now called the Deathrider? It has been. There's a paradigm shift. Hang on. A paradigm shift is when he takes them up to a certain height, but if he takes them a little higher and does it more like a Brain Buster DDT?

type thing they call it the death writer. You're joking. Not at all. it. It happens. my god. They go back and forth on the name and the only thing I can see, they've not announced that that's what it was, but the only thing I can see is when you get some higher up in the air they call it the death

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That'd be like Roman calling his finisher the bloodline. Are you kidding me? Right. The spear and the bloodline. Just depends on when he hits it. Right. Hits it with his left hildur, it's the bloodline. But the right hildur, it's a spear. Well, it's a spear if it's just off the ropes. If he hits the hoo-wah before it, it's the bloodline. Obviously. Of course. Pay attention. God, bro. Tony, what are we doing? Alex Windsor beats Skyblue. Boo. Queen.

Amanata you've got it. Yes. That's like four times in a row you own this one. Yes Billy starts and Billy starts earning a shot at the TBS title at forbidden door Which she's not going to win because it's against Mercedes right I I need I

You know, because we don't normally or I didn't wash Dynamite this week. I can't remember. I knew I was busy. I was doing something. So I'm scrolling across Twitter. Brodito. I was going to ask if that was your next thing. Brodito. Brodito. That would be Brody King and Bandido as a tag team. Brodito. Beat the Young Bucks or talent name. They beat talent.

Yeah, but I'm telling you, Tony Khan, I know I give your company a lot of shit. And I know I give your little coke riddled ass a lot of shit. But but this is one please for the love of God. You know, you could just pull up any of these AIs, chat, GPT, grok, any of them. I don't care.

Does crack keeping work anymore? It does. But just get on it and say, hey, I need a tag team name for blah and blah. And it's going to spit out a better one than the bullshit you keep coming up with for your goddamn tag teams. It's like you took two guys on the Indies who have no creative flow in their head and was like, hey, what do you want to name your tag team? You know what? You are a multi-million dollar company.

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just the company, the company is not a multi billion. He's not his dad is a multi. Okay, okay. Okay. You as a W are a multi million dollar company. I do not care how big and bad these guys are. I do not care what they tell you they want to be called. You look at them and go that shit stupid. We're going to call you this instead. Because if they say no, then you say, okay, go sit down.

You're not on the card. You're not going to be on the show and you're not going to work anywhere else because I still own your ass for the next three years. Quite simple. in Brody King's case, I don't know what Brody ever did, but my understanding is WWE doesn't want to work with him. Oh, why? So I don't I don't know. I keep meaning to look that up, but I always forget. But if that's the case, you got Brody King.

The WWE doesn't want to work with in his tag team. I'm sure TNA doesn't want to work with him because he's associated with WWE. So then you just say Brody, you're going to go by this tag team or you're just going to sit to hell town or I'll just release you and you can go back to the bingo halls. Doesn't really matter much to me. If that happens, Brody, please put your contact information out there. We'd like to know how much you got us. Brodito, god bro, they beat talent name for whatever reason.

And in a grudge match. Yeah, the one everyone's looking forward to. MJF picked up pinfall victory over Mark Briscoe. Yes. Because. Right. Mox's match. Wheeler Yuta is being kidnapped by Darby Allen. Later, Wheeler was found in a body bag in the parking lot and they opened up the body bag.

There was a piece of paper stapled or taped stapled stapled into his head that said forbidden door. Which I thought maybe met a frontal lobotomy, but evidently he just wants a match. Right. So we'll see what happens with I don't know. Does he want to match with Wheeler or a match with Mox Mox? OK. So right. So we're on the collision. Yeah. All right. Let's go to collision. I'll take.

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I'll at least take the first match TNT Championship. Oh wait, that's the main event. That's not the first match. Damn it. It's listed first. Stupid GPT. Sorry, Brandon. Hangman Adam Page teamed with Jet Speed. Do you want to take that one? Because that looks like it's the first match. Was it Hang Speed? What they going to Speed. Speed Man. Jet Man. Hang. Jet. Jet Jet. Jet Speed. Hangar. Ooh, Jet Hangar. Jet Hangar. Jet Hangar. That's what it is. Yes. there. All right. So. Speedy Jet Hangar.

Speedy no, it's just jet hangar. No, no, no because he's teaming with um Kevin night and speedball mike bailey. So you got to include both of them. No, it's just jet hangar. That's it speedy. Yeah hanger. No, just jet jet hanger and yeah hanger Tony con Give me a call. I can come up with just as good a name as you can Just gotta look at the name smash them together until they make Something that rolls off the tongue a little easy doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't even have to be good It just rolls off the tongue somewhat tong

Anyway, they beat La Faction In Governable. In Governable. In Governable. the other, the unruly. Ruth, Drillistico and the Beast Mortals. The ungovernable faction. Megan Bain beat someone named Emily Rose. Emily Rose, I'm assuming she's taken that name from the horror movie.

The Haunting of Emily Rose or whatever, it's a possession type movie. Ricochet beat Juice Robinson amid chaos involving Gates of Agony. Who did just re-sign with AEW by the way? Juice or Gates of Agony? Gates. You say that as if it's a guy. Not Bill. He didn't sign with AEW. Bill Gates did not sign with AEW. Gates of Agony, however.

Microsoft? Well, Big Bill, right here. That's who I thought you were talking about. That's their... Bill Gates of Agony! That's their triple threat tag to your name. That's their trio's name, Bill Gates of Agony. my God, bro. Tony hit us up. FTR joined Big Stoke. Big Stoke, yes. that Stokely? Yes. To defeat the trio of... Stokely wrestled? Evidently. To defeat the trio of...

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Joe Keys, Josh Fuller, and Ryan Zuko. I'm guessing Zuko, like from Greece. That's probably, I'm guessing that's how they pronounce it. Hikisero tapped out A.R. Fox. Well, you didn't read that that was a quick, emphatic tag match. Well, I kind of figured since it's versus Joe Keys, Josh Fuller, and Ryan Zuko. I'm sure Big Stoke had a problem. That's good point.

Mercedes, Triangle of Madness. Okay. Read that as Mercedes. Alright, Stop one second. There are other ways, Tony, to describe three people besides triangle. The death triangle. Death triangle. They're not even a triangle. The death triangle, the triangle of madness. Go with the triad. Go with the trifecta. Yes. There are other words that mean three besides triangle. The tricycle of madness. The tricycle of madness.

no, because that could go very bad very quickly come ride the triangle or the tricycle of madness gladly. Sky. 15 boy, you're 15 and I'm your dad sitting here, but I get it. Sky blue, Julia Hart and Tequila beat Queen Amanata, Tamello and Willa Nightingale and Shabata answered the open challenge and defeated Max Caster, which. That's not we.

The angle the one angle we wanted with Max Castor didn't happen because Kyle Fletcher is not a champ Just dusty coming out in there Dustin coming out. Dusty came out shit. I'd be happy with that to zombie ass dusty Come on If you we're Okay, go ahead take take the take the main event I thought you already attended that

Anyway, Kyle Fletcher retained his title against Tamihiro Ishii, the stone pit.

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in a hard hitting striker packed main event, which I mean, if you've ever seen an issue match, it's going to be a hard hitting match. I don't care. Fletcher. Fletcher. Yeah. I don't give a damn who you're wrestling. If your style is not hard hitting, at least half that match is going to be hard hitting because he cannot pull punches. Right. She is they called Shinsuke the king of strong style. And I love Shin and I loved him he was in Japan. And he was a little more hard style or hard. Yeah. Strong style. Strong style.

I keep saying hard style. That's a whole different thing. That's a it's behind the curtain at Blockbuster. But my goodness, I understood that reference. So King of Strong Style was in and he wrestled that way a little more when he was there. Ishii, my God, that dude just he's throwing potato after potato. It's crazy. Punk. There was an interview with Punk and Ripley. Punk or they were both asked, who is the stiffest wrestler you've been in the ring with?

Punk goes Terry Funk. I've always wondered why his punctures look so stiff. And then I figured out, because they're punctures, that I punch him back. And Punk does this impression. Why are you hitting me? I'm just an old man. Did Ria say buddy? No. We're just throwing out the dick jokes left and right here, evidently, this week. We started with the writing the triangle. Stiffest. That's funny.

Alright, that's our collision recap. it says Don Kalash issued a challenge to New Japan Pro Wrestling, daring them to step up to Kyle Fletcher. Hmm. AEW teased a four-way match with Garcia Hikichiro? Is that what you said it was? No idea.

Okay, that's probably how I said it was. Liam O'Yardy and Nigel McGinnis scheduled for next week's collision. I love Nigel. The winner earning a shot at the IWGP World Championship. Have Nigel win, please. Only if he's actually going to win the championship. Quit teasing me with Nigel championships and then not doing it. Okay, so I think we're on to our random tag team bracket. yeah, you want to break those down? I did last week, so can do this week. Yes, this week, do you want me to go match by match or match?

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winner match winner you go I would go match winner and then who they're facing okay match winner

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Our first match is Mello and Zack Sabre Jr. versus Gunther and Darby. The winner of that will face Cody Rhodes and Jacob Fatu. Okay, who we got? We agreed on all but one of these, right? Correct. Okay. I think we both had Mello and Zack Sabre Jr. for this one. So they will be facing Cody Rhodes and Jacob Fatu. For me, Zack Sabre's Matt Wrestling just put that over the edge. Right. Randy Orton and Lexus King.

versus Ilya Dragunov and Ace Austin. this is the one we disagreed with. We'll face the winner. We'll face the winner. We'll face Ricochet and Kyle Fleischer. Ooh. That's going to be a great match because. when we get into a dispute, right now Ace and I are picking the winners of these. We go through and we're like, we think this, we think this. We run into one where he presents his side, I present my side if we disagree. And if we can't sway the other one, we go to our little buddy Chad GPT.

And we explained to him that this is for our tournament and we need him to pick the winner. And he actually it's kind of fun actually gives us a play by play. was going to say sometimes sometimes he goes, well, if you want to healish when but if you want to clean when. No, I want you to pick the winner. So he was a tiebreaker on this one. And the winner is Ace Austin and Ilya Draganov. I still Orton. just it's hard for me to have Orton lose, but.

We'll face Ricker, Clay, and Kyle Fracture. It said Austin brought the X-Factor in this one. Ace Austin brought the X-Factor in this match. Dragunov's hard-hitting style. And then Ace Austin with unpredictability is what put them over. I can see Lexus wasn't the greatest tag team partner for Randy. Maybe if he had someone else we'd have went, but... I mean, Randy's a face. Lexus is a heel. know? Oh, but...

In my mind, when I go through these, it's like the Dusty Cup classic. So this one, have Will Ospreay and Moose versus Chad Gable and Eddie Thorpe. the winner will face Swerve Strickland and Joe Hendry. OK, so this one, think, might give you guys a little bit of a surprise as to where Ace and I agreed on this one. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. We both had Chad Gable and Eddie Thorpe. Because I've honestly I know Thorpe got released from NXT.

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Moose has been a mainstay in TNA for a while but I think I saw more in ring ability out of Thorpe in the short time that I watched him wrestling NXT Than I have in Moose. mean Moose is a good powerhouse for TNA. He comes across what they need but as an overall in the wrestling world, I don't see it Yeah, so that Gable and Thorpe will face Swerve and Hendry and then in our final matchup we have

one of the most unique teams on this list. Okay. Bronbreaker and El Hijo Del Vikingo versus LA Knight and Nathan Frazier. Now, I would be super excited to see Frazier and Vikingo go one on one. And on that one, I'm thinking it's a really close match. I'm not sure if I one on one on that. I'd have to flip a coin. I'm not sure who I would pick. Really? Yeah. But then I have to look at LA Knight and Bronbreaker and I know full well who is going to win that.

So when we put the tag teams together, Ace and I agreed that it's going to be Bronbreaker and Vikingo moving on to the next round. Yes. And they will face Hook and Aleister Black. All right. So give us a rundown of our we got four matches left now. We down to four matches. No, eight matches, six matches, 17. Where are we? Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, How we got ten? One, two, three, four, five, six.

We We have six. We have six. have six. One, two, three, four, five, six. We have six. Oh my goodness. We have six. No, we don't. Oh yeah, you right. Yes, we do. We have eight.

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We have four matches. Sorry, we have eight teams left. Four matches. What is going on? Four matches, eight teams. Doesn't matter. Look, we have one match here. match here. OK, you're talking six over. I'm talking this next week. OK. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, we 100 % would have four left. Yes. actually we have seven left then because we have the one, two, three, one, two, three, and then the winner of each bracket.

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Yeah, how about that check this shit look at at us doing math staring at pictures and still not being able to figure that out Next week. Are we gonna do all four next week? Just hit them all Cody Rhodes and Jacob Fatu will face Carmelo Hayes and Zack Sabre jr The winner of that will face the winner of Ilya Dragunov and ace Austin versus ricochet and Kyle flex here Moving on to our right bracket. We have

Swerve Strickland a Joe Henry versus Chad Gable and Eddie Thorpe and the winner of that will face the winner of hook and Alistair black versus brawn breaker and El Gijo Del Vikingo So we're moving right along with our tournament pretty soon. We'll have the ultimate random tag team champion What the hell else we're gonna call it right, right so we got a couple little little bump We'll try that shit again because my mouth wasn't working. We've got a couple of

things that we'd like to talk about, like to discuss. Number one on my priority list right now is probably number one on my priority list. I doubt it because number one on my priority list at the moment is the new deal that WWE signed with ESPN. It's not number one. I didn't think you said you said new deal. Right? Yeah. No, the WWE signed with the actual deal. So now if you're actually paying $800 for pay per view, if you're actually legally paying for your stuff like

Like everyone is. I know is. Then you're paying... Well, it's still not... I'm still not 100 % on how this ESPN thing is working. Because I've seen it reported like four different ways. I saw it reported. It would do everything. Like the Netflix deal is just void now. Because... ES... Did I use the wrong word? No, the Netflix deal is still 100 % on. Okay. Well, I saw...

It may have been the wording but I thought it was like all weekly shows all PLEs and Just PLEs that's even worse. Just PLEs Smackdown will remain on USA. They just signed that new deal Raw will remain on Netflix. They just signed that new deal. There's a possibility of NXT moving somewhere somewhere maybe to USA back to USA maybe to Netflix maybe

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They're not sure. Because they didn't sign a six or eight year deal like they did for the other ones for NXT. Hang on. And then I've heard that you have to pay $30 a month for this ESPN package. But I've also seen a report that if you already have, let's say, Spectrum that has ESPN, then you don't have to pay for the package because it comes with ESPN. I don't know. I honestly have no idea. the point is they're going to have- We'll more money for PLEs. Right.

Well, PLEs used to be $50 to $60 when they were legitimately pay-per-views. Right. Now they're not. So now they're PLEs. So it's $30. But it's a little bold for WWE to think that their fans are just going to follow over. I saw, dude, after the news, I saw like eight different people on Twitter, 20 different TikToks saying, I'm retiring with Cena. I'm not paying these.

Yeah, they all say that, but it's like the people are going to boycott the NFL a few years ago. That shit didn't happen either. When they were kneeling for the flag and for the anthem and stuff, they're going to boycott anyway. I'm not getting political on that stuff, but people talk big until it's the shit that they enjoy watching and then they'll go pay for it. until their favorite wrestler comes back. Right. But the thing is if ESPN, WWE expects their followers to follow them from Peacock.

ESPN, even though it's a giant price hike. 20 bucks. When we went to Peacock, Peacock has movies, it has TV shows. I can watch The Office, Parks and Rec, all this. And when we changed from WWE Network to Peacock, Peacock was the same price as WWE Network. Was it? Yeah. So of course I'm going to follow you over. I'm already paying that much.

And now I'm paying that much plus getting the office plus getting parks and rec plus getting all these movies, all these other shows, original content. Yeah, we don't even know what the hell is going on this ESPN thing except WWE. Right. You know, now if they package it where you can pay this much and and get select football games. Yeah. They'll cover some extra college stuff. That's pretty much where my sporting. That's pretty much where I can watch that now on ESPN.

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But that's pretty much where my sporting interest ends. you know, my sporting interest ends at WrestleMania. Throw some basketball, baseball, hockey. I mean, I'm not going to watch it, but for other people to make it worth it. But right now we don't even know what they're offering. So why the hell am I going to pay $30 a month to watch your pay per views? And my question now is I pay my flat fee for Peacock. It would be $30 a month. the

two night pay per views are still gonna be the $30. Never mind. My head was still thinking of it as a pay per view model. So I was like, shit, do I gotta pay 60 bucks for WrestleMania now? Screw that. Slam, Survivor Series. All a sudden, all the pay-alys. Oh shit, there's gonna be Clash in Paris. There's gonna be two nights if they're charging your first show the way they're going. Oh my God. I heard. Everybody is blaming, I'd also like to put out real quick, everybody's blaming Triple H and Tony. TK. Tony Khan. Triple H and Nick Khan for this.

TKO owns WWE. finalize whatever they want. Nick and Hunter, Nick and Paul can go look at what they want. They can try and negotiate and they can be the guys that are signing. But if TKO says, hey, we're taking our product over here, they're taking that product over there. And it doesn't mean a damn thing what Hunter says. It doesn't mean a damn thing what Nick Khan says. Wasn't TKO Hunter's idea?

No, UFC and... Vince. But it wasn't established until... TKO, the TKO group established itself because it was the company that owned UFC and then they wanted to buy WWE. So they established TKO as the name of the company that would control both so they could keep the entity separate. So essentially, so UFC didn't own WWE. They didn't want their legitimate fighting company owning a fake fighting company. Well, I mean, when TKO first...

Everyone was talking about hey, maybe we'll get you know, McGregor in the maybe we'll have run it back. Yeah, you know, maybe we'll have Lesnar run it back. Lesnar is not allowed to is he not why they won't take him anymore after failed drug tests and all the shit that he's involved in UFC. UFC is not an entertainment company. They're actually a fight company. So they're not they're not going to run that risk. Yeah.

MWT (01:11:16.065)
But now TKO has turned to crap. So... sponsorships everywhere. Right, they're selling every... I don't care about the sponsors on the mat. know it upsets some people. Whatever, I can tune it out. But when they start putting them on every ladder and on every table... It's... For me it's... On every turnbuckle now too. For me it's... It's as bad as it gets when the main event of WrestleMania is sponsored by Dude Wipes.

Well, it was a bunch of bullshit. Like you kidding me? No. The next thing you know, the wrestlers are going to start coming down in gear that looks like NASCAR drivers like the sponsors all over. I mean, Lesnar already has Jimmy John's shorts. Yeah, that was used to because they. Yeah, it's going to be. And here coming to the ring presented by Slim Jim. Yay. I was going to go with that late night. That works too. Whatever they brought from the same commercial. That's why you don't jump in on my shit. You messed me all up.

Sorry, we'll goodbye for the inaugural Snickers champion championship. It's oh, he turned heel. Somebody get him a Snickers. He's not himself when he doesn't have his Snickers. Yeah, this is the shit we're going to be getting to before too long, right? So you want to go on to our next topic? Yeah. OK, well, there's one more thing. OK, go ahead. I heard not nice here. Your prior. No, before after.

There you go. That's the word. There might be two WrestleMania's in 2027. Don't buy it. One in Saudi and one in... it. Both would be two nights, by the way. They might do a two night event in Saudi, but I cannot see WWE devaluing the name WrestleMania by having it twice a year. It's not WWE anymore. I can't see TKO because they're all about money. They don't. But here's the thing.

They don't need to call it and if they want to have WrestleMania in Saudi they can do that. Call it something else. Right, they don't need to call it WrestleMania. Not WrestleMania in Saudi. They don't need to have WrestleMania in Saudi after they have WrestleMania in St. Vegas for the 12th time or whatever. Six months later have two WrestleMania's. They don't need to do that. They can call the other one whatever they want to and make it a two night event.

MWT (01:13:39.566)
They're not going to have to. That would be like having a midseason NFL game and call it the Super Bowl. It's just not going to happen. That's the whole. it. cannot see it. Stupid rumors happen online constantly and half of them come true. Half of them. Well, which is way more than I this is than it should be. OK, I'm going to compare the wrestling rumors to one of my favorite George Carlin quotes of all time. don't know who that is. He's great, great comedian. I'll introduce you to him later. OK.

What George Carlin says was, do you know how stupid the average person is? Pretty. Now realize that half of the people are dumber than that. Oh, I know. And that's how I that's how I look at wrestling. OK, I'll give you that. OK, on to our this point. Now, the biggest topic in wrestling this week without question. I'm going to I'm going to believe it once more.

You're gonna believe this one. I believe it. I do not believe this. Karrion Kross and Charlotte, Charlotte, Scarlett, Scarlett is close. Karrion Kross and Scarlett's contracts expired over the weekend. They've been they've been moved to the alumni section of WWE. Right. And I didn't like I didn't think anything of WWE moving them to the alumni. Vince, both Scarlett and Kross tweeted out

You life's hard, you You gotta do what you gotta do. And the thing that sold me, they both put their booking emails at the end of their thing.

I might have to take a moment here and let you do your maddening take first because I was going to use this as mine, but I'm just going to jump into this now. OK. I don't believe this for a second. Is this your maddening take? My maddening take is I do not believe for a second that they would be. I'll get I'll come up with a new one to actually do the segment because we're still talking. I don't believe for one second that they were released. Because I'd like to not think they were because Cross just released a book. Yep. He's going on a book tour.

MWT (01:15:58.738)
Now we can keep him off TV for a little bit. And when he comes back, it'll be a big surprise because he's not under contract. Heyman was just talking about how I see a comparison to the growth of Stone Cold Steve Austin in the way that carrying you think WWE is going to let Stone Cold's name be put out there by Paul Heyman on a guy that they're releasing. Do we think that's going to happen? I don't.

Here's my next thing, Karrion Kross right now, we're talking about him. He's one of the segments that we have on our show. He is right now one of the hottest things in wrestling. number one trending hashtag on Twitter is hashtag we want Kross. Which is affiliated with WWE, so that means WWE is getting buzz. He is the hottest quote unquote free agent on the market right now.

Why is he putting his booking information out? Does he think V1P is going to call him? Are you shitting me? He is the hottest free agent on the market. And you're telling me that New Japan hasn't already fucking called him when they knew his contract was expiring? You're telling me AEW hasn't tried to swoop in and take one of Vince's guys that has a natural crowd reaction? Those are the guys that they take. They took the Hurt Syndicate. They took Christian. They take these guys who had their natural build.

in WWE. Hell, they took age. Undisputed era, right? They take the guys that have a natural build in WWE and they take them. So the hottest reagent on the market has got to put his name out there like the guys that we book every other month at a volleyball court. Are you shitting me? There is zero chance that this is real.

until cross shows up at another promotion that is not affiliated with WWE. You're not counting TNA. I'm not counting TNA. I'm not counting AAA. okay. Lucho Underground. Until he shows up. He's gonna be next Americana. Until he shows up in New Japan. Even then I'm kind of questioning if he shows up in NOAA. I'm still questioning because we've sent guys that we've because I work for them. WWE has sent guys over to work for NOAA. EO. Right. So he needs to show up. AEW or Ring of Honor.

MWT (01:18:16.969)
A W he will not show up in Ring of Honor. No, if he goes over to Tony Khan's he's going to a W. Well, right, but you gotta so just he shows up. You're right. The ones a W Ring of Honor possibly New Japan. Those are three places if he shows up because even if he takes an Indie booking, that's what Josh. That's what Josh Briggs did. Yep. Or the other one. Yep. Yep.

Not buying it. They just played us with this shit. You just brought up the Jensen thing. They played us with the Jensen getting released. They said he was released. did it with Truth. He was never... and I'm telling you right now, Truth was never released. No. I do not give a shit what they're trying to tell you. That was played like a goddamn fiddle and people ate it up. Don't buy it. Don't buy Cross. How do you feel about Cross? You said you're still buying into it.

MWT (01:19:12.781)
I don't know. mean, I'd like to believe he's not gone, but I don't know. TKO is dumb. Hunter is not. I'm not dissing on Hunter. I'm just saying he's not booking his talent to their full potential. Like where's Mellow? Where's Cross? Cross is gone. Not gone. Alistair Black. Kinda. He's got him in a feud with Damien Priest who Hunter views as one of his top guys.

Hunter Fuse is one of his top guys? Damien, yeah. Okay. I'll give him that. Well, I mean, think about all the people that Hunter brought back. But here's the thing. He brought back Stroman. He brought back... I have a picture, but my phone's dead. He brought back Dakota Kai. He brought back...

Tegan Knox, he brought back Bray Wyatt. That's not his fault. That's I none to do that, so was out of his hands. But he brought back so many people and all of them are gone. Yeah, yeah. So why can't, why should we not include Cross in one of those possibilities? Where was the cry for Braun Strowman to stay? Tegan Knox couldn't stay healthy. She was not worth her money. Dakota Kai.

Everyone wanted Dakota kind of stay the people backstage wanted to go to kind of stay so once people on Twitter wanted to go to kind of stay Okay, okay, you can't you see but you can't judge by the IWC. That is what we are doing right now No, no, no, no, no, it's not when do you think the people that were outside at summer slam? Afterwards that were standing in that giant crowd. Do think that's all IWC? No, they were all chanting we want cross. Yes

MWT (01:21:05.591)
The arenas, arena after, you and I have been to enough wrestling shows to know that the people filling up those arenas, maybe down on the floor and a few here and there, are not the hardcore internet wrestling community. Right? Just took some of my friends. Right. And we've sat around with people who just casually watch. Right. They've even asked us questions. And those shows are still all chanting, we want cross. None of those people that you mentioned that were released,

ever had that effect. None of those people that you're mentioning ever had the number one selling shirt. I forgot he has that. I would also like to point out that Karrion Kross just did a hour long video. Yep, I that. And never one time committed to his WWE status. Elaborate. Never said yes, I was released or I have resigned. He said,

I really hope to be able to continue in WWE and I really hope to be able to end my career there because I always grew up a fan of WWE with guys like Roddy Piper and Bret Hart and that's always what I wanted to do. He would not say my contract ran out and I'm no longer under contract or I've signed a new one.

I don't know. still not sold. See, this is going to be my. yeah. This is going to be my Seth Rollins. Right. Right. And when I told you when I told you my points on Seth Rollins, you're like, no, I don't. Right. don't believe it. Because because they worked us so well and do things that they haven't before. And now a cross coming out and given this thing and now there, I completely believe we'll see cross back in a WWE ring before we see him in any other major promotions ring. Well, what about Dijak?

Dyjak put his booking thing down there too. He was on SmackDown. He was on NXT. He's not the level. He was never the hottest free agent. I mean it took him a while to even get into the The main event of NXT. Well, no, what's the GW? What's the other wrestling league? G-W-C? G-C-W? G-C-W. It took him a little while to show up there. He popped around a few higher end indies for a while before he showed up there. I guarantee you if Kross is available with the buds he has right now.

MWT (01:23:23.639)
They wouldn't. There's a reason why. Why didn't we see? Why didn't we see Ricky Starks for months? In a W why didn't we see him? His contract was running out and what would happen if they kept him on TV? He did get. He'd ride that wave of momentum to wherever else he was going to go. So why would they keep cross getting these fan chants? On TV time after time to ride that wave of momentum to another company. OK.

What if someone does reach out to Cross and say, hey, we have the money. We would like you on our indie show. What do they say? The indie show? No, what does Cross say? No, no, I'm saying an indie show. Yeah. By all means, go. Really? Yes. Hell yes. By all means, go wrestle that indie show that's going to show up online and nowhere else. It's not really a competition to us. It's going to be on national TV. Yes, by all means, because that's going to make it really look like you don't work for us.

You can't go over and be on Tony's show though, because that's competition. Dude, imagine Cross goes over to AEW gets taken out by like the Hertz syndicate. Then he just shows up on Raw the next night or the next week. Yeah. I'm just saying I don't believe it. for a second. So, uh, since I

You know what? No, I'm just going to go ahead because we're running along here. That was my maddening take. that was a long ass maddening take and we're running long on our show. So that was my maddening take for the week. What you got for us? My maddening take is Clash in Paris. That's crazy. know. No. People are complaining about the graphics saying that it looks on par or worse than the SummerSlam graphics, which first off, I don't know how that's even possible.

Second off, these graphics are phenomenal. I'm also seeing people saying that the poster with Roman's face on it is so very clearly AI generated. No. Yeah, because WWE hasn't. I'm going to be honest with you. When they say AI generated, we think that's AI. It very well could be. I'll show you what we can do later. But the thing is,

MWT (01:25:42.376)
WWE has artists and they've been doing renders like this for years. So it's probably a digital rendering made by an artist would be my guess. Maybe but here's the thing the clash in Paris pictures the promo pictures for it are Van Gogh's starry night. Mm-hmm. And then they use that same style on the the wrestlers themselves to give it an artistic feel right the reason that people are complaining about

this. And I know people listening out there right now are wrestling fans and I don't necessarily mean you when I say this. But the uncultured slack jawed troglodytes that typically watch pro wrestling are like, well, I don't understand that picture's all swirly. Why does it look swirly and weird? also uncultured slack jawed troglodytes like that one are doing their research finally and saying

Well, Van Gogh is Dutch. Starry Night was painted in southern France. Has nothing to do with Paris. And it's being displayed in New York. Currently, but where is it housed? Where is it normally? It's on tour. Paris. Yes, at the Louvre. Thank you. Little bit of research, folks. This is not hard. We live in an age.

where all the information in the world is at our fingertips. at the palm of your hand. Yet the stupidest things in the world are said because people can't take three seconds to stop scrolling cat videos to look up actual history. Thus, the uncultured, slack-jawed, troglodytes. Yeah, that's my maddening take. I love the graphics of Clash in Paris and I hope they do more unique stuff like this. Right. I love it. It stands out. It's very, very unique. When we saw the graphics, I was at

my friend's house, you didn't see him. No, you didn't want paying attention. Right. Yeah. So was Smackdown, Smackdown. I'm like, look at those. You're like, wow, that's amazing. Love them. know, God forbid we get a little culture in our wrestling lives. That's rough. So on that insult to the wrestling community in general, we're going to go ahead and call this a week. Ace and I will go check out.

MWT (01:28:03.221)
raw here in just a little bit. I'm go eat first, I'm hungry. Get something to eat, go watch some raw, take a shower and back to the real world tomorrow. For me, Ace still has a few weeks before that happens. No, I have to get a band tomorrow. Yeah, but you don't have school for another two weeks. Well, that's still the real world, I have to interact with stupid people. You interact with stupid people every day. you leave the house or not, it happens. I'm just talking about the people you talk to on over your headphones, not the family. Sorry if my family doesn't listen to this, mind.

I didn't mean them, they don't listen anyway, so there's no reason to apologize. At any rate, I've been Mike, he's been Ace, and that's been Backwards. We'll talk to you guys next week.